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we tried random snowden hunting? >> have you seen edward snowden? >> no. >> reporter: hello, cuba. good-bye, cuba. been on the ground here an hour in havana. trying to negotiate our way back on to a flight become to moscow. we think we have didn't. >> that's it for me. "erin burnett out front" starts now. >> vladamir putin says snowden is a free man. and a key part of the voting rights act struck down by the supreme court today. what it means for the next election. >> day two of the george zimmerman trial. shocking testimony. graphic photos tonight of the moments after trayvon martin was killed. let's go "outfront." ♪ ♪ >> good evening, everyone, i'm
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erin burnett. out front tonight, putin, 1, obama, 0. today russian president vladamir putin said that nsa leaker, edward snowden is a free man. putin said snowden is in the transit area of moscow's main airport and despite all the requests from the united states, putin says he isn't handing snowden over. since u.s. and russia don't have an extradition agreement and snowden hasn't committed any crimes on russian soil. how did the u.s. respond to that? well, yesterday, secretary of state john kerry warned of consequences, his word against russia if the country allowed snowden to escape. today well consequences weren't on the table. >> we are not looking for a confrontation. we are not ordering anybody. we are simply requesting under ape very normal procedure for the transfer of somebody. >> so, what will it take for the u.s. to gift snowden back? and at the moscow airport where
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snowden is believed to be hiding out in the transit area. john you, have been standing there, there you are at the airport. is there any sign of snowden at this point? how big is the part of the airport you are in where he is? >> well, like any other modern airport around the world, erin, this is a sizable facility, the hub of intrigue. matter of fact. 72 hours ago, snowden landed here from hong kong. he has not been seen since. in the last 18 hours, we know a few things. he was thought on the plane to havana yesterday, that leaves at 1400. the flight left again today at 1400 for havana. we watched everybody board. snowden not on the plane. we saw the plane taxi, takeoff as well. no white van with the thoughts that maybe they snuck snowden on board to that. we did check with the one transit hotel in this -- airport facility. just the transit lounge. only houses 40 people. we talked to the management, the
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front dex. they said snowden has not been checked in here at all. nor has anybody else supporting snowden over the last few days checked into the facility. one final note here, i think president putin decided to break the code of silence. this was handled by his foreign minister before. i think he would look to see this behind him, to be candid. he did say he is not on russian soil. but he issen the transit facility. a large one. in true russian style, you know, erin, not difficult to hide somebody here particularly at a new facility if you wanted to. >> if you wanted to, would imagine the russians could do a lot of things. john, let me ask you -- vladamir putin has the not personally gotten involved stepped up to the mike and spoken. more than the president of the united states who has not personally intervened. does it look like there is any chance russia will change their tune. they're at a point. 72 hours have gone by. they said he hasn't committed any crime. he is a free man. pretty hard to back down off of that isn't it?
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>> well a couple different twists to what you suggested, off of president putin's comments? is he really a free man? we haven't seen him roaming around the airport facility. he is not being treated like a freeman. 72-hour trantz sit is unusual. we came in 18 hours ago. we have to be out of here in 24. the rules of the game here in the moscow airport. after president putin's comments he would look to see a resolution while he was in finland, erin, he suggested fbi director, mueller may have a discussion to discuss legal issues around it. the first time he suggested it. although, although, we should underscore this, russia holding the position they dent want to extradite this person to the united states, up less they see formal charges. so far they're not charges they think should be amrid pplied to that wants extradition. >> reporting from the main
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airport, outside moscow. where at least according to our understanding and what president putin its where edward snowden is still holed up. 72 hours after landing in russia. and "outfront" author of foreign policies national securities letter, the situation report. gordon, great to have you on. putin said today about snowden, quote the president, the sooner he selects his final destination point the better for us and himself. again that sound like i want him out of my hair. not that i will hand him over. a senior obama administration official called putin's, comments, potentially positive. i want to ask you, some may say positive is too strong a word when putin has thus far, not handed him over. >> kind of seeing this as a layover in the diplomatic p iic crisis. putin would look to see it go away. as your reporter noted. it is'clear there is a play for the u.s. here to convince russia
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to do anything otherwise. and the russians themselves are eager to let him move on. even if it is, on some level, enjoyable to watch this kind of cat-and-mouse game play out. >> so, is putin just trying to make president obama sweat here. is there any chance that he will hand snowden over? >> i lost your audio there a little bit. >> is there any chance that putin at this point would hand snowden over. is the whole point put spin trying to make an international public incident of "hey, i know you want something, president obama, and guess what? i am not giving it to you." >> there is no real reason for putin to do anything other than what he said he is going to do. there is nothing really in return that the u.s. can give him that, that's at least out there or even, even, kind of -- on the sidelines. so it seems like he is -- he is
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not trying to create a big problem with it. but he is not eager to lift a big finger to, solve it either. for the u.s. >> gordon, what is the verdict going to be on this when it is said and done? that putin was acting childish or america was weak? >> putin issen ein a firm posit. sleight of hand, the transit center. not clear, not a legal expert. not completely clear it is a legal safe haven or not. there is no extradition agreement between the u.s./russia. he can easily say that and walk away from it. this has a long-term problem between the u.s./russia, there are a lot of other issues they're dealing with between the countries. this is a bet of a sideshow. i think it will move on after a while. >> gore dwe shall see. some times the little things some one does that make you so mad, you cannot focus on the big thing. we'll see. snowden's catch me if you can saga has largely been
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orchestrated and funded by wikileaks. a member of the organization's legal team has been by snowden's side since heap left hong kong sunday. she is with him. the group has been integral in helping snowden find a country that will grant him asylum. how does wikileaks ge t s get ty to carry out its work. we wanted the answer. it is detested by so many governments. but clearly getting money. tom foreman went out front for an investigation. >> reporter: airplane tickets. hotel rooms, global escape plans for people like edward snowden. it all costs money. >> we have tried to help in the limited ways we can. >> reporter: yet the numbers from wikileaks suggest a rapidly dwindling supply of cash. they took in $43,000 the first half last year but spent eight times as much. some supporters look john perry barlow set up their own web sites to funnel fund to
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wikileaks. he said he sent $120,000 so far. >> i care about it for the same reason that i would care about "the new york times." i care about making sure that -- the press is free to report on what goes on inside a government that i pay for and participate in. >> reporter: wikileaks financial problems are no accident. leader julian assange, has railed against visa, mastercard, for failing to process donors. $1.7 million poured in. political players have suggested the money come pans are right to turn away, considering the allegations of illegal activity. >> what wikileaks has done amounts to espionage. >> reporter: wikileaks says the banking blockade is revenge for the release of sensitive documents about the u.s.
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military, guantanamo, diplomatic efforts and surveillance. they blame right-wing politicians for a vendetta, making assassination calls against wikileaks' staff. >> i ask president obama to dupe the right thing. the united states must renounce its witch-hunt against wikileaks. >> reporter: wikileaks has fervent fans, many small donors willing to give money and had a success clearing a path for them. two months ago the supreme court in iceland ordered a financial company there, valatore with ties to visa and mastercard to stop blocking donations. wikileaks celebrated and tweeted. we send out a warning to other come of paenz involved in the blockade. you are next. but for now, against ape sea of powerful opponents. wikileak is in a desperate hunt for funding with which to fight back. tom foreman, cnn, washington. >> thanks to tom.
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the supreme court strikes down a crucial part of the voting rights act. and critics say one part of the country is still more racist than others no matter what the numbers say. more dramatic testimony at whitey bulger trial. family members speak out. and then a mystery in the sky -- when a plane carrying $1.2 million landed in new york. the money which was loaded on board is gone. and the latest from the paula deen controversy. fired, dropped by sponsors. her supporters fight back today. can she turn it around? africa.. vietnam in 1972. [ all ] fort benning, georgia in 1999. [ male announcer ] usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection and because usaa's commitment to serve military members, veterans, and their families is without equal. begin your legacy, get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve.
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john roberts and four supreme court justices struck down a key part of the voting rights act of 1965. roberts said census data show this, black voter turnout now exceeds white voter turnout in five of six states originally covered by the voting rights act. the obama administration quickly expressed its disappointment with the ruling. >> i am deeply disappointed, deeply disappointed with the court's decision in this matter. this decision represents a serious set back for voting rights and has potential to negatively affect millions of americans across the country. >> all right, what does this mean for the civil rights movement? jeffrey toobin, they cite the census data, yesterday they sent affirmative action back down too. they're kind of punting on civil rights? >> i think they're very
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different. i do think they punted on affirmative action case. they didn't want to deal with it. they're leaving the status quo, more or less intact for the short term. voting rights act is very different. that is a very big deal. the voting rights act changed america like almost no lawen history. and one of the key parts of it was. they said, look this part of the country, essentially, the south can not be trusted to enforce the law. so we are, we are going to make you -- come to washington when you want to do anything, any sort of change, and we are going to have to achuf pprove it preclearance. it is now over the they say they kicked it back to congress. the house will never pass the voting rights act again. this is over. >> when they say the country has changed. some things have not. some have. it looks like voter turnout -- >> hovering over the whole case is an african-american president
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of the united states. something that was so unthinkable in 1965, it wasn't something that people contemplated. so that is a big part of this case. but if you look at the statistics of who actually runs these states, and who makes the decisions about voting, and especially in recent years, seen so many efforts at voter suppression, aimed at african-americans and lower income people. that's what the civil rights community is so worried about about the fallout of what this may be. and you have already seen in mississippi, alabama, and texas, local officials saying "we are changing the laws and they're all in a direction to make it harder to vote." >> fascinating. of course, gerrymandering happens. all over the country. >> all over the country. that's -- and that now, the justice department will have to step in. aggressive leave instead of having it come to them as a matter of course. >> all right, thank you, jeffrey toobin, let us know what you
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think about the supreme court. to the trial of accused boston mob boss whitey bulger. today it took a personal turn. testimony from relatives of alleged murder victims. one widow giving testimony the last time she saw her husband. he was meeting up with winter hill, bulger's alleged gang. deb is out front. she has been covering the trial. deb, this victim had ties to show biz royalty. this case gets stranger and stranger? >> you know, it really is, erin. what is a mob trial without one reference to mafia darling, frank sinatra. today one of the 19 victims bulger allegedly killed was the nightclub owner, golf buddies with sammy davis jr. when seam got married, he met frank sinatra at the wedding. the photo introduced to day in court. the widow of the nightclub owner
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sobbed audibly and was a huge pause in the courtroom. she testified the last time she saw her husband alive he told her he was on his way to meet with the bulger gang. she never saw him again. it is important. a couple years ago she filed a wrongful death lawsuit against the fbi and was awarded $2 million because she was able to show the fbi -- a crooked agent provided bulger information that her husband was informing and when bulger allegedly had her huz brand kill husband killed. >> yesterday you were talking how bulger was muttering under his breath with the f word, i'm not an f informant. did he have reaction today? >> he was much less agitated today. one of the reasons his defense lawyer was the one in charge of the questioning. part of their strategy is to look at his 700-page, fbi informant file and fry try to
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convince it was fabricated. the fbi agent, taking pieces of information putting it into a file that was supposed to be bulger's. a lot of information that bulger was an informant. they did get a federal investigator today to acknowledge he did not verify each piece of information individually. but also got him to acknowledge. parts of the file were likely falsified. not the parts when bulger is talking about other people's criminal activity. when he is talking about his own criminal activity and involved the crooked fbi agent. e erin. >> thank you. still to come, developments from the george zimmerman. and the jury saw graphic photos of trayvon martin's body. the flight from zurich had $1.2 million on it. they say. when the flight landed here in new york. the money was gone. clues next. your digital life may be killing
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our third story out front, the great plane robbery. 12,000, $100 bills supposed to be aboard a flight from zurich to new york city. imagine if that was on your flight. i would probably try to steal it. until the plane arrives at jfk airport, it is discover the money is gone so where did the money go? mary snow has the story. >> reporter: more than $1 million disappears from a swiss
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international airlines flight. what's unclear is when the $1.2 million all in $100 bills actually vanished. was it before passenger flight 17 left zishg urich on saturday after it arrived in new york. a former official said the cash was part of a bigger shipment. roughly $50 million coming through jfk in the national airport. the money belongs to a u.s. bank says a law enforcement source. shipped in a cargo container headed to a federal reserve facility. the short fall was discovered the source says when the shipment arrived there monday. former federal agent, robert strang says huge cash shipments are not unusual. is it common so much cash would be on a passenger flight? >> sure, when you look under the belly of most commercial airplanes, you are going to find many things you can't belief are there. because you are transferring money, assets, whether gold bars, jewelry, other valuable
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items around the world done mostly in passenger aircraft. >> reporter: the federal reserve decleaned comment. swiss international airlines would only say an investigation is under way. the caper brought back memories of the 1978 heist at jfk, made famous in the movie, "good fellas." >> live from the scene of a heist at jfk. it looks like a big one. >> reporter: thieves made off with roughy $8 million in cash and jewelry. at the time the biggest heist in history. but the amount pales in comparison to one earlier in belgium. eight heavily armed men burst through a fence on to a brussels tarmac and two vehicles, and stole $50 million in diamond from a plane bound for zurich, switzerland. more than 30 people were arrested. in the brussels heist, authorities retrieved stolen diamond, cash and luxury cars after finding them spread across three countries.
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welcome back to the second half of "outfront." we start the second half with stories, where we focus on our own reporting. from the front lines. i want to begin with carnival, holding someone accountable for all the problems on the cruise ships this year. after three decade at the company, the ceo mickey eriksson is getting the boot. the stalled "triumph" sewage ran down the walls and technical problems on three ships since. the incidents hurt carnival big time, earnings plunged 55% reported to day. mens wearhouse explained why it fired executive chairman, george zimmer, the founder. zimmer was trying to regain financial control of the company. the board says that is not in line with what is best for shareholders. one question that remained, whether zimmer will remain the guy in commercials who ensures customers they're going to "like the way they look."
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according to an sec filing, men's wearhouse would have to pay him $250,000 a year for his likeness. it may be worth it. that's the one thing you know about mens wearhouse. >> daniel issa subpoenaed state department officials about part of the investigation into the attack in benghazi in which four americans were killed. in a letter to secretary of state john kerry, issa accuses the department of dragging its feet, writing, i am concerned waiting weeks or months while the department prepares witnesses to be interviewed creates the risk their testimony will have been rehearsed or coached. issa's office wants to know who denied the american mission security request in the months before the attack. >> it has been 691 days since the united states lost its top credit rating. what are we doing to get it back? after heavy losses in recent days the markets bounced back including the dow which rose 101 points. triple digit on there. a lot of confidence in the housing market in the u.s. a report shows home prices
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surged 12% in april compared with a year ago. >> now our story "out front." day two of testimony in the george zimmerman murder trial. for the first time today, the jury saw gruesome photos of trayvon martin splayed on the ground in the minutes after zimmerman shot the teen. he says the was self defense. we are showing you these pictures. but we are choosing here at cnn not to show you some of the most graphic images. martin savage is in sanford, florida covering the trial. martin, trayvon martin's family was there in the courtroom they saw the photos we showed. but also some other, much more difficult to look at photos. how did they react? >> it was a very, very difficult day for the family. it was difficult for everybodien the courtroom. we have all seen photographs before. but we had not seen these particular photographs. they were quite striking. they are of the 17-year-old as you describe. on the ground. clearly dead. and even showing the bullet wound, entry wound that took his life. so all of that was combined with
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emotional testimony from the first responders that described the last breaths that this young man took. the tragedy, sunk home to the family. sabrina fulton, his mother, stared straight ahead. very stoic. you couldn't read any emotion in her face. and there is tracy martin, that is trayvon martin's father, he literally got up had to walk out of the room. he didn't return until sometime later. >> let me ask you, a police sergeant one of the first to arrive on the scene, moments after trayvon was killed actually went on the stand today and answered questions. what did he say? ? when he described the moments when he tried to save trayvon? >> you know, all of this reminded the court that there was a victim. of course, we knew that. but, up till now, especially in the presentation, you see george zimmerman. the defendant here. he comes and goes in the courtroom. trayvon martin to this point had
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been a name. then you saw the photographs. then you heard the depiction coming from this sergeant as he works on this teenager's bed. he didn't know at that time that, that the young man had been shot through the heart. couldn't be saved. so he and another officer, frantically worked to revive, using cpr. it didn't work. of course. but it was dramatic to hear that attempt to save a life by first responders. >> martin savage, thank you very much. martin covering the trial in florida. i want to turn now to our legal analyst, who has also been watching the trial. mark, the graphic photos were shown today. trayvon martin clearly dead on the ground. and in some of them this face very clearly visible. martin talked about the reaction of his family and how difficult that was for them and for everyone in the courtroom. how effective was title show those photos to the jury? >> well, as martin says it truly humanizes the drama that, that -- this tragic loss of a
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teenager. so it scan hatch no other impact or effect. but off to really touch people's hearts. but this is done in every trial. you always show the picture of the victims. you show the -- the entry. you show the injury. it was done here. these pictures, relative, to other cases are not especially according to the law. especially gruesome or inflammatory. so you didn't even hear an objection from the defense when they were moved to be placed into evidence because they're appropriate. and they're appropriate for the jurors to -- to recognize and see there is somebody a young man who is dead and they have a very serious task in front of them, determining guilt or acquittal for george zimmerman. >> now that they have a human face, like before. they, like all of us, familiar with the pictures we have seen him so many times. now that his death is now personal. day have to decide who they believe. the opening statements that we reported yesterday, obviously
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someone used the "f" word on the george zimmerman side. and then we have the knock-knock joke on the george zimmerman side that went over terribly in the courtroom. how well did each side rebound today do you think? >> well i think the state could only go one place. they did just fabulous yesterday. the defense on the other hand -- couldn't have been more miserable for them. i think the defense today really got some credibility. they started, interestingly they had the subject of the horrible knock-knock joke, and questionable opening statement. go ahead and question witnesses at the beginning. he did well. it showed his style yesterday was similar to today. i think that was a good thing to do. because it showed the jurors that he does a good job. that's just his personality. and the defense ended on a high note today. there were some strong, attacks, cross-examination, credibility issues with the last witness of the day. i think that today goes to the
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defense. not as strong as yesterday, went few the state. but they gained a lot of credibility and really, it's not any smooth sailing for either one of them. there is really a hard-fought trial going on. >> mark, thank you as always. see you soon. >> before trayvon martin was shot, george zimmerman was walking through his florida neighborhood with a bullet in the chamber of his gun ready to fire it. this could be a crucial detail in his murder trial. leaving some wondering if zimmerman knew how to safely handle the weapon or not. our david mattingly is "outfront." >> reporter: if you are following the george zimmerman case you have probably heard this sound before. [ gunshot ] >> reporter: the sound of of a shot from a handgun like the one caught on a 911 call the moment george zimmerman killed trayvon martin. >> all right, what is your -- what is your -- >> there's gunshots. >> you just heard gunshots? >> yes. >> reporter: zimmerman carried the gun legally.
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prosecutors seem to suggest he was doing more than that. >> it wasn't necessary for the defendant to rack it, to led of a round. it was ready to go. >> reporter: zimmerman was carrying the gun with the bullet already loaded in the chamber and ready to fire. was this a sign he was planning to do harm when hea encountered. trayvon martin. zimmerman was doing what he was suppose to do? >> was he carrying it properly? >> properly if i was ready to defend myself, you bet. >> reporter: holt said the gun is designed for personal protection. one of the cheaper guns selling for between $200 to $300. made to be concealed. carry, red to shoot. it is called carrying hot. you recommend to your students to carry this one hot. >> absolutely. >> reporter: that's because it comes with a safety feature. an extra long trigger pull that prevents accidental firing. but we also learn watching this
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trained marksman. >> you missed. >> caller: i no. >> reporter: it is only effective in close quarters, something else noted by prosecutors. >> have you heard a prosecutor raise these points before? >> no, i have not. >> reporter: the florida firearms attorney, says state attorneys could be targeting specific jurors trying to use the features of zimmerman's gun against him. >> i think among most people familiar with firearms, that line of argument would be unpersuasive. to some one who is unsophisticated in the use of firearms possibly it could be persuasive. >> amazing trying to say, look the way this gun is designed, the way you would have to pull the trigger, that just having this gun alone would be evidence of intent to kill. is that a line that will work with the jury? >> well, when you look at the makeup of the jury. just six members here. four of them indicate that they have family members who own
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firearms. that they might be familiar with weapons. and not susceptible to the argument. one of the four used to have a conceal carry permit. if it looks like that the prosecution might be taking a chance here. >> david mattingly, thank you very much. amazing all the new facts we learned about the gun tonight. still to come the latest on the paula deen controversy which is getting deeper. a day after she is dropped by a major sponsor. her supporters fighting back and aggressively. is it possible the tide could turn in the case in her favor. later, a story that is very dark and curly. first tonight's shout out. pulled from the water. heavy rain led to flooding in some parts of iowa. according to our affiliate a man was trapped in his truck in cedar county. rescuers got into boats to pull him out very quickly. they saved his life. shout out tonight, goes to the rescue crews, who again risked their lives off to go into the water and save someone else.
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we are back with tonight's outer circle where we reach out to sources around the world. tonight we begin in beijing where an american businessman says his employees have
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barricaded him in his factory holding him hostage. dozens of workers at specialty medical supplies china say they're mad about pay. the man tells cnn the whole situation is a misunderstanding. but our david mckenzie is in beijing following the story. and i asked him what is happening. >> erin, this is where this bizarre story is unfolding. u.s. businessman, chip stang in the factory. he says workers in china are holding him hostage. he has been in there more than five days. it all started because of a labor dispute. they're moving some of the operations into mumbai, india. some of the workers panicked saying they want their severance. he has been trying to negotiate. >> thank you, david. now to egypt. forcing the american embassy in cairo to close. worried that anti-government protests could turn violent. and i asked how serious it is
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this time. >> erin, egypt is the batoning down the hatches. opposition groups will be out in full force against president mohamed morsi who hales from the muslim brotherhood. the embassy will be closed. a typical move. it lies a quarter mile away from one of the main focal points of the demonstration. while the embassy has been targeted in the past well are not expect anything this time around. but what i can tell you is the egyptian streak et is buzzing w anticipation, expecting hundreds of thousands if not a million people. the greatest challenge to morsi's presidency. the army won't allow the country to slip into chaos. what that means is anyone's guess. mark your calendar, june 30th will be one to watch. erin. >> ian, we will do that. our fifth story "out front." days after paula deen was fired
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from food network and shelved by smithfield foods for using the n word. her sons spoke exclusively to cnn about their mother's tarnished reputation. >> i can tell you this, that word, that horrifying, terrible word that exists and, i. abhor it, it is not in my vocabulary, notten my brother's vocabulary, it is not in my mother's vocabulary. we were not raised in an environment where that word was used. >> there are opportunists. my mother admitted, apologized and as a person what more can you do. >> fans are speaking up. several save paula deen facebook pages are filled with support and demand for her reinstatement. is this enough to redeem paula deen. and great to have both of you. do you believe paula's sons? >> i want to say, first i do
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believe the sons. it's their mom. my point from the beginning of this, what she admitted to saying is horrible. 30 years ago. no one else has come forward. we see in every scandal, anthony weiner, more women came forward, no within else has come forward. that's what i fiend nd so curio. other people would come forward. a year ago, two years ago. >> when people say racist things they say it around other racist people. other racist people aren't going to come forward. this isn't like sexual harassment case where there is victims, this isn't like a herman cane, a clown car of women popping out. i don't think the sons are lying. she may have raised them to be perfectly reasonable, upstanding citizens that are color blind so to speak. doesn't mean she is. >> an interesting point, if you are going to use the word. >> are you disagreeing? >> you can. let's look at something else.
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she taught her children, we both believe her children were not brought up in the household where the n word was used and racist word were used why. can't we applaud some one evolving. i am not defending her. if currently she is using this, the we finally have over 50% of americans supporting it. in the gay community a few years ago, would you discount everybody not supporting gay marriage? we evolved as a country and a progressive nation. we should embrace -- >> why are you so persuaded she's evolved? >> i haven't heard -- >> she did say one of these al gauges were in 2007 where she said she you would like to have a wedding where the waiters are all black. >> she didn't do it and said why? the media wouldn't like it. >> she said i won't do it because it's absurd or racest or offensive, because the wowed media may get upset because she has negros in short panels.
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>> that's -- >> she said the media would blast me. >> i've been called a hateful word in a e-mail and tweet and if a person came back and said i'm sorry, i would happy. i want people to move forward. i don't want them to be taken for something that happened 30 years ago. >> what if somebody said i won't call you that offensive word because of the media dinging me for it -- >> it would be -- >> it's the be -- >> all the high profile problem the causes, you get busted for your point of view and that's -- by the media and makes you reconsider. >> sometimes it's shame and embarrassment. >> like weaner wouldn't have stopped what he was doing if somebody didn't bust him. >> i think he's embarrassed and made a conversion. the senator bird the member of the clan, i think he's genuinely
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converted over the last 80 years. i think people can change. i don't think it happened to paula deen in the last. >> it's from a lawyer background about evidence, seeing evidence of recent bad acts, recent use of "n" word or using derogatory comments. i can't believe nobody else has come forward and i'm curious. did she pay people? i don't think so. >> what about what reverend jessie jackson said and i thought he was eloquent about it. >> i think at some time we can't use her as a skate goep for errors of culture. i do not understand the mistake, i don't think that's right. >> i agree. >> i agree. >> you agree. >> she's evolving and developed and maybe as deen said, maybe she has. >> you're not ready to suddenly say okay, you said you're sorry and your son said you're okay.
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>> oh, your son said -- >> i didn't say free pass go to the carnival cruise and the cruise is still going on -- maybe not carnival. >> yeah. >> the recipes kill more people than dexter. it's unreasonable what is happening with her food. she goes on "the today show" tomorrow. some will forgive her, some won't. >> thanks so much to both of you, we appreciate it. weigh in on the paula deen situation. i'm glad i have mark and dean sitting here, forcing them to watch this story because we take a look at the "out front out take". for decades the height of manliness and a sign of a man's untamed spirit. i did not write that. anyway, actress, rock stars flaunted it and women flooned -- definitely not at that -- maybe that one, then something happened. men started waxing and going
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more and more with the hair less manicured look until the new symbol was a clean, shaven body. again, i don't agree with that. anyway, one company is angry and want to change it and part of the self-described manliness campaign. wing company tells the daily mail it's commissioned english designers to create what you're looking at now. this is a man fur coat. the one of the a giant garment is made of 1 million male chest hairs. i look at dean and marc. it will retail for $3,800. you can purchase this disgusting thing and companies said it will reencourage men to adopt the values of assured mens mens from yelser year. this is terrible. do you guys agree? >> yes. i'm going to sell my chest hair for a profit, though. >> how will this encourage men to go with hair?
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disturbing medical news today. a new type of dementia shas bee reported. doctors have notice add deterioration in our cognitive abilities that is usually found in people that suffered head injury or psychoyacht i can illness and itself-inflected. it's overuse of smart phones, tablets and game devices that's hampering the balanced development of the brain. so a person who spends more than seven hour as day on devices, shows a significant lack of development in the right side of the brain, that's the side of the brain responsible for concentration and memory. that can lead to emotional problems and yes, the early onset of dementia.
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it's horrific to witness and horrible to imagine in your own life, impossible to imagine. this is not something to take lightly. and while we're not saying you should stop using your device all together, there is a reason why, four months we've warned about the slippery slope that is technology and yes, we probably sound like a broken record, but you know what? we like records and probably a lot of you don't know what a record is but we do. and we're proud of it. we look outside our devices for mental stimulation and that's why we hear out front, we're not why we hear out front, we're not worried about digital dementia. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >> a powerful day in the george zimmerman trial and the testimony about trayvon martin's final moments. nsa leaker edward snow dan, not actually in russia. how is that possible? we have a reporter there and what a long, strange trip it has been.